you can make any open source model behave like jev with just a bit of inference engineering. it's shockingly easy. to prove it, we built a new endpoint we're calling deepseek-v4.1-flash-jev. see the demo below. here's how it's done: sglang (an inference engine) offers a Show more
Can LLMs Do What Jev Does? A Replication Attempt
A skeptical Japanese replication that approximates Jev's speed by reading first-token logits from small LLMs, with Gemma3 and a Mario benchmark.
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- Practices & Patterns
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- nwn
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- 2026-09-25
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- 2026-09-25
Highlights
- Reimplemented parallel decisions with Gemma3 270M and first-token logits, reporting a 77x speedup.
- Mario harness: Jev 276 ms and 1,226 distance against Llama 3.1 8B at 356 ms and 1,138.
- Notes only non-reasoning models expose logprobs for this approach.
- A commenter's calibration test saw Choice pick one option in all 400 hidden-die rolls at 83% average.
Watch out
Japanese-language with small samples, a reverse-engineered prompt, and older logprob-exposing models only.
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Hacker News: Jev implemented in 25 lines of Python
bashbjorn400 points · 128 commentsJev in 25 Lines of PythonRead the thread on Hacker NewsHacker News: Kev: a tiny Jev-like family built on Qwen3.5
tosh458 points · 199 commentsKev: Tiny Jev-like family of decision models built on top of Qwen3.5Read the thread on Hacker NewsX: deepseek-v4.1-flash-jev
Reddit: A walkthrough of routing between models with Jev.
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